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Soon we will announce the opening of the new Ministry:

The Sunday Assembly attempted to instill wonder, but without the God of Wonder behind it

“Once 11:00 came the service kicked off with the band.

Yes. There was an atheistic church band. (Bet you never thought you’d read that in your life.) It was led by comedian Pippa Evans.

A (perhaps first-ever) atheistic church band leading the congregation in hits from Queen, Stevie Wonder, and Nina Simone.

Once the band had captured our attention, the “pastor” figure of this service exploded onto the stage. And he was hilarious.

Rightfully so, as the entire service was led by British comedian Sanderson Jones. Jones kicked the service off by warmly welcoming everyone and offering an amusing story of how he had learned that it was actually fellow atheists, not Christians as he had expected, who vocally disapproved of The Sunday Assembly.

He displayed a screenshot of his twitter feed from one disgruntled atheist who claimed that the term “church” to all atheists is like the term “concentration camp” to all Jews. Jones made short work of the mystery atheist – it was pretty funny.

After his introduction, we sang a Queen song as the service moved along.”

READ MORE:

http://blogs.christianpost.com/guest-views/my-sunday-at-an-atheistic-church-14529/

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

STUNNING: Obama’s Pick For CIA Is A Converted MUSLIM!

On Tom Trento’s radio show, former FBI agent John Guandolo, who wrote the first Muslim Brotherhood training manual for the FBI, outs John Brennan, Obama’s nominee for CIA Director, as having converted to Islam while working in Saudi Arabia.

CIA Director nominee John Brennan testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 7, 2013, during his confirmation hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee'. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

http://www.westernjournalism.com/stunning-obamas-pick-for-cia-is-a-converted-muslim/

This explain why he is so ready to use drones against Americans:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/07/john-brennan-senate-hearing-cia-nomination-live-blog

http://news.yahoo.com/brennan-defends-drone-strikes-even-americans-224334056–politics.html

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Proud Parents…..

Our daughter Betty had her FIRST article published with the AZ REPUBLIC…

By Betty Ilioi  

Special for The Republic | azcentral.com

Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:57 PM

Simon Hewat said he never knew about world heavyweight champ Muhammad Ali’s Irish ancestry.

Hewat, who was born and raised in Dublin, attended the grand opening of “The Fighting Irishmen: Celebrating Celtic Prizefighters 1820-Present” at the McClelland Irish Library in Phoenix last week.

The Scottsdale resident became a member of the library the day before the exhibit’s debut and said he learned new things about his Irish culture.

“Most people associate the Irish with kelly-green leprechauns and beards,” he said. “But this exhibit is the real deal. It represents the real-life history of Irish people in America in a unique way.”

Read full article:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20130201fighting-irishmen-exhibit-celebrates-american-history.html

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

WE LIVE LAST DAYS ….

Florida judge approves birth certificate listing three parents

Florida judge okays birth certificate with three parents

MIAMI (Reuters) – A Florida judge has approved the adoption of a 22-month-old baby girl that will list three people as parents on her birth certificate — a married lesbian couple and a gay man.

The decision ends a two-year paternity fight between the couple and a friend of the women who donated his sperm to father the child but later sought a larger role in the girl’s life.

The ruling means the child’s birth certificate will include a biological father and both women as parents in an unusual arrangement approved recently by a Miami-Dade Circuit Court judge.

The women, Maria Italiano, 43, and Cher Filippazzo, 38, had made several unsuccessful attempts to become parents using fertility clinics.

They then turned to Italiano’s hair dresser, Massimiliano Gerina, and asked if he would provide his sperm for artificial insemination.

“When push came to shove, they figured he would understand the situation,” said Kenneth Kaplan, an attorney for the women.

“The mistake they made, however, was there should have been a written document spelling out what his rights and responsibilities were going to be.”

According to Filippazzo, the three reached a verbal agreement before Italiano became pregnant. Filipazzo said the agreement meant she would adopt the baby and the two women, a longtime couple, would raise the child together.

But shortly before the baby was born, Gerina decided he wanted to be considered a parent and not a sperm donor. The women disagreed. Under Florida law, sperm donors have no legal rights to children.

Gerina hired a lawyer, setting off nearly two years of legal wrangling.

Under the judge’s decision, the two women will have sole parental rights, although Gerina will be allowed to visit the child. He will not be expected to provide child support.

“We’re trying to do the right thing for Emma,” Filippazzo said. “We want Emma to have it all, and we believe by doing it this way, including him in a birthday or Thanksgiving, it’ll be a nice addition for her.”

“We believe the best interest for Emma is for him to have a role in her life, but not as a parent,” she said. “The role is this is mommy’s good friend who helped your moms have you because they wanted you so badly.”

 

ReutersBy Kevin Gray | Reuters

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/florida-judge-approves-birth-certificate-listing-three-parents-233555185.html

 

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

WAKE-UP, AMERICA!!!

Jonathan Cahn Messianic rabbi Jonathan Cahn (Sean Roberts)

“We must sound the alarm that must be sounded,” Cahn stated in his keynote address at the interdenominational, bipartisan event. “We must address what must be addressed, and so the message now will not be politically correct. Nor will it be political. It will be biblical. It will be true. And wherever it falls, let it fall.

“I will not hold back,” he continued. “And if I offend you, I apologize that I cannot apologize for offending you. Without truth there is no love. On a day that so embodies the future course of this nation, it’s critical that we both pray and speak the truth.”

Read more:  http://www.charismanews.com/us/38133-jonathan-cahns-unapologetic-prophetic-message-to-america-goes-viral

‘Longest Married’ couple in U.S….

Connecticut Couple Honored as 'Longest Married' in U.S. (ABC News)

John and Ann Betar of Fairfield, Conn., said “I do” on Nov. 25, 1932, and have been happily married for 80 years. Together they have five children, 14 grandchildren and 16 great-grandchildren.

The couple was selected for the 2013 award by Worldwide Marriage Encounter, a Christian marriage enrichment group based in San Bernardino, Calif., that organizes a search each year to promote the virtues of lasting marriages and inspire young couples.

“What an inspiration Mr. and Mrs. Betar are to all of us. They made a commitment to each other 80-plus years ago and they have kept that commitment over these many years. They truly are a sign of hope to us all,” Worldwide Marriage Encounter’s Ron and Judy Pekny said in a statement.

READ MORE: http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/connecticut-couple-honored-longest-married-u-205715329–abc-news-topstories.html#more-id

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Pastorul Florin Ianovici…..Ianuarie 2013

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SANDY HOOK FATHER ABOUT GUNS AND CONSTITUTION…

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

THE DREAM……

James Edwin Cossey Yesterday (02/05/2013) near Cleveland, TN via mobil

I awoke about 4:00 am from a very graphic dream. Most of the time, dreams of mine are the result of too much pizza or spicy food, but there are those times when I am convinced they are messages from God. On the heels of last night’s Superbowl, I believe this was.

In my dream I was called to perform a wedding, and when I arrived at the church, another minister was beginning the ceremony as I waited my turn to participate. As the wedding proceeded, someone somehow informed me that the “Groom” in this wedding was entering an adulterous relationship, and had no biblical right to remarry. Furthermore, it became more and more obvious that this was going to be a “Same Sex” wedding–the attempted union of two men. Then the minister turned his focus toward me as if I were the other partner in this so-called wedding, and not just another minister in it.

Needless to say, this made me furious and I could not contain myself but began to cry out that not only was I not a “party” to this, I would have nothing to do with it, that I was there as a minister of the gospel. It was then that someone somehow communicated a message to me saying, “Anything you condone by your presence you have chosen to be a partner in!” And then, thank God, I awoke!!

Most of the commercials on last night’s Superbowl either exploited women, glorified sex, or promoted alcohol. The halftime show had to be turned off at our house because it looked more like what I would surmise someone would see in a strip joint, not what one wants in the living room for prime time! Much of TV and film “entertainment” glorifies adultery, is saturated with alcohol, fowl language, and violence!

As I awoke from my dream, this Scripture was running through my mind, “Who knowing the judgments of God, that they who commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but HAVE PLEASURE in them that do them” (Romans 1:32 emphasis mine).

Do we derive our entertainment from those things The Lord hates? Or do we “delight ourselves in The Lord?” Paul makes it clear in 1 Corinthians 5 that we cannot totally avoid ungodly people. To do so would mean we would have to leave the earth altogether (1 Corinthians 5:10). Furthermore, if we avoid all sinners, we cannot be a witness. But to “take pleasure” (or be entertained, as one translation says) in what they do (Romans 1:32) is another thing.

Every believer–especially parents and grandparents–need to pray as never before for discernment and wisdom to make right choices about our sources of entertainment.

Anything you condone with your presence, you have chosen to be a partner in!

Great day in the morning!

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Church Should Have More Control Over Family Life

Vladmir Putin

“While preserving the secular nature of our state, and not allowing the over-involvement of the government in Church life, we need to get away from the vulgar, primitive understanding of secularism,” he said.

“The Russian Orthodox Church and other traditional religions should get every opportunity to fully serve in such important fields as the support of family and motherhood, the upbringing and education of children, youth, social development, and to strengthen the patriotic spirit of the armed forces.”

Read full article:

http://www.charismanews.com/world/38083-putin-church-should-have-more-control-over-family-life

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

SEMNAL DE ALARMA!!!

LUCA 13: 1-9

1. In vremea aceea au venit unii si au istorisit lui Isus ce se intamplase unor galileeni, al caror sange il amestecase Pilat cu jertfele lor.

2. “Credeti voi”, le-a raspuns Isus, “ca acesti galileeni au fost mai pacatosi decat toti ceilalti galileeni, pentru ca au patit astfel?

3. Eu va spun: nu; ci, daca nu va pocaiti, toti veti pieri la fel.

4. Sau acei optsprezece insi, peste care a cazut turnul din Siloam si i-a omorat, credeti ca au fost mai pacatosi decat toti ceilalti oameni care locuiau in Ierusalim?

5. Eu va spun: nu; ci, daca nu va pocaiti, toti veti pieri la fel.”

6. El a spus si pilda aceasta: “Un om avea un smochin sadit in via sa. A venit sa caute rod in el, si n-a gasit.

7. Atunci a zis vierului: “Iata ca sunt trei ani de cand vin si caut rod in smochinul acesta, si nu gasesc. Taie-l. La ce sa mai cuprinda si pamantul degeaba?”

8. “Doamne”, i-a raspuns vierul, “mai lasa-l si anul acesta; am sa-l sap de jur imprejur si am sa-i pun gunoi la radacina.

9. Poate ca de acum inainte va face rod; daca nu, il vei taia.”

 

Florin Ianovici

Posted by Florin Ianovici   8 hours ago near Bucharest, Bucuresti (4 Februarie 2013)
Nu l-am cunoscut pe Alexandru dar l-am vazut aseara la spitalul de chirurgie plastica. A fost adus in urma in urma unui accident prin electrocutare. O imagine cutremuratoare, cum rar mi-a fost dat sa vad. 

Mama lui se ghemuise de durere si epuizare pe un scaun in holul de asteptare. Bunica imi spunea printre lacrimi ca Aexandru mai venea pe la adunare din cand in cand. Nu s-a botezat pentru ca nu se simtea pregatit. 

Cand a fost adus la spital a spus personalului medical ca vede doua porti: a iadului si a raiului si ca nu vrea sa intre pe poarta iadului. Acum este in coma indusa iar noua ne raman tacerile chinuite si suferinta unei neputinte care sfasie.

Am stat in fata unui tanar de 19 ani ars in proportie de 95% care isi traieste ultimile clipe. Ma gandeam, rugandu-ma, la un singur cuvant: “aşadar, nu atârnă nici de cine vrea, nici de cine aleargă, ci de Dumnezeu care are milă.” Imi doresc ca Dumnezeu sa aiba mila de el.

In toiul vietii umbra mortii stie sa se furiseze si sa isi ia plata. Daca am trai in neprihanire ar pleca cu mana goala. 

Sa avem grija ce facem cu viata noastra! Sa traim astfel incat sa lasam in urma noastra certitudini, nu intrebari dureroase.

E o zi de luni, e inceput de saptamana, e o indurarea noua a lui Dumnezeu pentru orice suflet. Fii intelept si foloseste bine timpul pe care Tatal ceresc ti l-a daruit! 

In fond cine stie cat ne-a mai ramas?

 

So God Made a Farmer…

The BEST add at super bowl, 3rd February 2013….

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Slujesc sistemului sau slujesc lui Dumnezeu?…..

Nicu G.

“…….am început să cântam altfel de cântece, folosind instrumente, să ieșim pe strada la evanghelizare, mai târziu să lucrăm în casele de copii, sa organizam tabere – ȘI ASTA a fost deranjant. Nu a fost vorba de teologie, ci de practicile noastre. Învațătura oferită, consilierea personala, implicarea în slujire i-au făcut pe tineri să rămână aproape de noi – deși asta însemna izolarea lor în cadrul bisericilor de care aparțineau. Astfel, la un moment dat aveam un grup de 35 -40 persoane care nu mai erau acceptate în biserici, dar avusesera experiența unui alt fel de viață creștină și doreau să o continue. Am început biserica în 1998, după tabăra naționala de la Voroneț, una deosebit de puternica spiritual – când un grup de slujitori din Bucovina au venit sa preia controlul și să opreasca ”discoteca”– atunci am realizat că încapațnarea mea de a rămâne împreună cu frații nu se mai justifica. Ca și misiune crestină, NU eram parte a nici unei structuri bisericesti, astfel atunci când am declarat intenția de a functiona ca și biserica am fost abordați pentru a deveni parte a Cultului penticostal, insa condițiile impuse pentru asta erau inacceptabile. Practic ar fi trebuit sa renunțăm la tot ce ne facea diferiți de celălalte biserici, și nu am fost gata să plătim acel preț……”

Citeste tot interviul pe: 

http://cristianlaurentiu.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/scormoneli-3-intrebari-la-care-raspunde-pastorul-nicu-gramesc/

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Comunicat al Bisericilor Nondenominationale din Timisoara……..

publicat de Pica Mengher pe 2 februarie 2013 pe pagina personala de Facebook:

Comunicat al Bisericilor Nondenominaționale din Timișoara cu privire la discuțiile referitoare la forma și fondul închinării ce au avut loc în ultima vreme pe Internet (rețele de socializare, blog-uri):

Timișoara
2 februarie 2013

Bisericile Nondenominaționale din Timișoara susțin:

1. Mandatul Bisericii universale și autonomia bisericii locale:

a. Biblia este singura normă care are dreptul de-a ghida viața, conduita și doctrina bisericii;

b. Prin autonomie înțelegem libertatea de-a hotărî viziunea, structura cât și stilul de închinare specific contextului nostru cultural;

2. Unitatea în esență și diversitatea în forme:

a. Unul dintre scopurile noastre este lauda și închinarea prin care Îl glorificăm pe Hristos și îi aducem pe oameni în prezența lui Dumnezeu;

b. Noi recunoaștem diversitatea stilurilor muzicale, a formelor de închinare vechi și nou testamentale, încurajând calitatea și creativitatea, toate acestea pe fondul înțelegerii corecte a Scripturii, Biblia fiind principala sursă de inspirație și normă de corectare a laudei și închinării noastre.

Astfel, închinarea biblică, practicată în diferitele ei forme, va aduce revelație și transformare pentru a fi tot mai vizibil în noi chipul lui Hristos.

Dumnezeu să vă binecuvânteze.

Semnează,

Pastor Daniel Matei, biserica Agape, Timișoara

Pastor Lucian Chiș, biserica Aletheia, Timișoara

Pastor Dorel P. Mengher, biserica Casa Închinării, Timișoara

Pastor Demjen Dezideriu, biserica Credinței, Timișoara

Pastor Relu Bahnaru, biserica Deo Gloria, Timișoara

Pastor Sava Tomin, biserica Kairos, Timișoara

Pastor Cusman Cionca, biserica Metanoia, Timișoara

 

https://www.facebook.com/pica.mengher

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

Falling down is part of LIFE…Getting back up is LIVING

This year, at ages 65 and 43, Dick and Rick finished their 24th Boston Marathon, in 5,083rd place out of more than 20,000 starters. Their best time? Two hours, 40 minutes in 1992 – only 35 minutes off the world record, which, in case you don’t keep track of these things, happens to be held by a guy who was not pushing another man in a wheelchair at the time.

“No question about it,” Rick types. “My dad is the Father of the Century.”

Read the full story: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=424861240916232&set=a.209381259130899.48472.105191282883231&type=1

By cornelilioi Posted in Diverse

SA CASTIGI RAZBOIUL SPIRITUAL…

din volumul “Slujitorul adevarat, Slujitorul care schimba lumea”

Efeseni 6:12: “Caci noi n-avem de luptat impotriva carnii si sangelui, ci impotriva capeteniilor, impotriva domniilor, impotriva stapanitorilor intunericului acestui veac, impotriva duhurilor rautatii care sunt in locurile ceresti.”

     Noi, ca si slujitori ai Domnului, suntem in razboi. De aceea trebuie sa fim echipati ca pentru razboi.

     1 Pentru 5:8: “Fiti treji, si vegheati! Pentru ca potrivnicul vostru, diavolul, da tarcoale ca un leu care racneste si cauta pe cine sa inghita.”

     Cred ca ati observat din acest pasaj biblic ca Satana nu intentioneaza sa ia prizioneri ci sa distruga, sa devoreze credinciosii Domnului. Strategia lui in acest razboi este de a forma cat mai multe “intarituri” in viata credinciosului, mai ales in viata slujitorilor lui Dumnezeu, spre a le folosi ca rampa de lansare a atacurilor impotriva oamenilor. Aceste “intarituri” pot fi un pacat sau o conditie premergatoare pacatului, cum ar fi: descurajarea, indoiala, mania, amaraciunea, dorinta de revansa, flirtarea cu pacatul, patima rea, cautarea de placeri si lacomia.

     Multi oameni mi-au relevat in marturisirile lor tactica celui rau. De multe ori, curiozitatea chiar “omoara pisica” (“Curiozitatea a ucis pisica” – este un proverb american folosit pentru a avertiza despre pericolul experientelor fara motiv…..Nota traducatorului). Sa luam ca exemplu pornografia. Cineva poate gandi, ce stricaciune, ce prejudiciu poate produce o flirtare usoara cu pornografia? Prin urmare, ei incearca sa strecoare o privire curioasa vizitand pe internet o pagina de orientare pornografica. Primul pas e mai greu si dupa aceea se trezesc saracii oameni ca sunt dependenti de ea. Pornografia este unul din pacatele de moarte tocmai pentru ca nu pare mare lucru la suprafata. Una din denominatiunile mari au trimis un chestionar tuturor slujitorilor sai si i-au rugat sa raspunda in mod anonim. Din toti care au raspuns 65 de procente au admis ca pornografia a jucat un anumit rol in viata lor.

      Da, diavolul foloseste ispite ce par usoare sa insele vigilenta slujitorilor lui Dumnezeu, pacalindu-i sa creada ca nu fac nimic rau, daunator. Insa pasul urmator este decaderea slujitorului in mod vertiginous.

     Un alt exemplu des intalnit: sentimentul de furie, de amaraciune ori de dorinta de revansa pentru ceva ce s-a intamplat gresit sau numai asa ai perceput tu. La prima vedere ai putea sa te simti indreptatit dar adapostirea acestor sentimente pot provoca in viata ta o deteriorare, pot crea un suflet mahnit. Intretinand mania si amaraciunea poti ajunge ca tu sa comiti nedreptati. Stii ca poti fi drept uneori dar in acelasi timp sa fii si gresit?

     O nedreptate comisa impotriva ta nu justifica o alta nedreptate comisa de tine. Pavel ne spune: “Caci armele cu care ne luptam noi, nu sunt supuse firii pamantesti, ci sunt puternice, intarite de Dumnezeu ca sa surpe intariturile.” (2 Corinteni 10:4). Daca vom folosi arme firesti vom putea culege roadele a ceea ce o astfel de arma poate aduce. Dar daca vom folosi armele lui Dumnezeu vom culege roadele folosirii lor de la Dumnezeu.

     Satana foloseste uneori un prieten nevinovat sau un membru al familiei ca sa alimenteze aceste autocompatimiri.

     Prin aceste afirmatii simtamintele tale sunt deformate si vezi musuroiul unei cartite ca pe un deal.

     Ahitofel a fost sfatuitorul lui David, dar dupa pacatul lui David cu Batseba, nepoata sa, nu l-a mai iertat pe David in inima lui. Amarat, el se uneste cu Absalom in incercarea de a-l inlatura pe David de pe tron. David se pocaieste de pacatul sau (citeste Psalmul 51, o extraordinara rugaciune de pocainta) iar Dumnezeu iertandu-l, ii promite scaunul de domnie al Israelului pe vecie. Ce face Ahitofel? Nevinovat de pacatul lui David, totusi nu reuseste niciodata sa treaca peste ‘’tradarea’’ lui David si in cele din urma se sinucide.

     Din nou, poti fi drept dar sa sfarsesti gresit. Tu poti lasa, prin neveghere, ca pacatul cuiva sa se intoarca spre tine si sa te distruga.

     Daca esti ranit sau amarat impotriva cuiva, chiar avand dreptate dar neputand sa-l ierti, trebuie sa lucrezi neaparat la aceasta decizie de iertare. Iertarea nu este un sentiment, este o optiune, o alegere. Apoi Duhul Sfant in tine te va ajuta ce decizie sa faci.

     Fiecare “intaritura” a Satanei va slabi fundatia experientelor tale cu Dumnezeu si va impiedica partasia ta si relatia ta cu Dumnezeu. Cum trebuie de preintampinat aceste strategii ale celui rau? Cum ne vom lupta in acest razboi spiritual?

     In primul rand, ocoleste, evita ispitele. Nu-i oferi celui rau o tinta ca el trage. Isus a accentuat evitarea ispitelor in Rugaciunea Domneasca. El a spus: “…si nu ne duce in ispita, ci izbaveste-ne de cel rau…” (Matei 6:13). Deasemenea, El ne porunceste “Feriti-va de orice se pare rau” (! Tesaloniceni 5:22).

     Foarte putini credinciosi in mod intentionat fac lucruri rele si gresite. La inceput se incepe cu un gand distractiv catre un anumit lucru crezand ca oricand vrei il poti inlatura usor. Crezi ca totul este in control. Dar regula confirma ca puterea seductiva a acelui gand nevinovat este atat de fascinant incat incepi sa nu mai opui nici o rezistanta si curand realizezi ca numai controlezi nimic. Controlul l-ai avut numai la inceput cand puteai sa decizi sa nu flirtezi cu pacatul. Iacov 1:15: “Apoi pofta, cand a zamislit, da nastere pacatului; si pacatul odata faptuit, aduce moartea.”

     Ce altceva am putea face in acest razboi spiritual? Castigarea lui necesita o vigilenta aparte impotriva ispitelor. Cere o umblare continua si de aproape cu Dumnezeu unde ispitele vor putea fi infrante de la inceput. Numai protectia lui Dumnezeu poate cu adevarat sa te pazeasca neatins. Cere o cunoastere deplina a Cuvantului lui Dumnezeu cu care poti contracara minciunile ademenitoare si seducatoare ale celui rau. Cere sa renunti la sentimentele negative din viata ta care te golesc de vitalitatea spirituala, sa poti inainta fara sarcini si bagaje. Cere sa pastrezi tot timpul focusul pe chemarea lui Dumnezeu ca sa ramai acolo unde Dumnezeu vrea sa fii. Cere sa lucrezi pentru Dumnezeu si pentru oameni cu lepadare de sine, sa nu devii o tinta usoara pentru cel rau. Cere sa ai o atitudine de lauda si inchinare, o arma sigura tot timpul invingatoare impotriva ispitelor Satanei.

va urma….Sa induri greutatile slujirii ca un brav soldat

IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

Barack Obama, Kathleen Sebelius, Nancy PelosiPresident Barack Obama hugs HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi after signing the Obamacare law on March 23, 2010. (White House photo/Pete Souza)

In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a family will cost $20,000 for the year.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS’s assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.

“The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

Bronze will be the lowest tier health-insurance plan available under Obamacare–after Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Under the law, the penalty for not buying health insurance is supposed to be capped at either the annual average Bronze premium, 2.5 percent of taxable income, or $2,085.00 per family in 2016.

In the new final rules published Wednesday, IRS set in law the rules for implementing the penalty Americans must pay if they fail to obey Obamacare’s mandate to buy insurance.

To help illustrate these rules, the IRS presented examples of different situations families might find themselves in.

In the examples, the IRS assumes that families of five who are uninsured would need to pay an average of $20,000 per year to purchase a Bronze plan in 2016.

Using the conditions laid out in the regulations, the IRS calculates that a family earning $120,000 per year that did not buy insurance would need to pay a “penalty” (a word the IRS still uses despite the Supreme Court ruling that it is in fact a “tax”) of $2,400 in 2016.

For those wondering how clear the IRS’s clarifications of this new “penalty” rule are, here is one of the actual examples the IRS gives:

“Example 3. Family without minimum essential coverage.

“(i) In 2016, Taxpayers H and J are married and file a joint return. H and J have three children: K, age 21, L, age 15, and M, age 10. No member of the family has minimum essential coverage for any month in 2016. H and J’s household income is $120,000. H and J’s applicable filing threshold is $24,000. The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000.

“(ii) For each month in 2016, under paragraphs (b)(2)(ii) and (b)(2)(iii) of this section, the applicable dollar amount is $2,780 (($695 x 3 adults) + (($695/2) x 2 children)). Under paragraph (b)(2)(i) of this section, the flat dollar amount is $2,085 (the lesser of $2,780 and $2,085 ($695 x 3)). Under paragraph (b)(3) of this section, the excess income amount is $2,400 (($120,000 – $24,000) x 0.025). Therefore, under paragraph (b)(1) of this section, the monthly penalty amount is $200 (the greater of $173.75 ($2,085/12) or $200 ($2,400/12)).

“(iii) The sum of the monthly penalty amounts is $2,400 ($200 x 12). The sum of the monthly national average bronze plan premiums is $20,000 ($20,000/12 x 12). Therefore, under paragraph (a) of this section, the shared responsibility payment imposed on H and J for 2016 is $2,400 (the lesser of $2,400 or $20,000).”

 

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