Remember Reformation Day – Ziua Reformarii

“On Halloween of 1517, Luther changed the course of human history when he nailed his 95 Theses to the church door at Wittenberg, accusing the Roman Catholic church of heresy upon heresy. Many people cite this act as the primary starting point of the Protestant Reformation… though to be sure, John Wycliffe, John Hus, Thomas Linacre, John Colet, and others had already put the life’s work and even their lives on the line for same cause of truth, constructing the foundation of Reform upon which Luther now built. Luther’s action was in great part a response to the selling of indulgences by Johann Tetzel, a Dominican priest. Luther’s charges also directly challenged the position of the clergy in regard to individual salvation. Before long, Luther’s 95 Theses of Contention had been copied and published all over Europe.”

 

 

http://rodiagnusdei.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/remember-reformation-day/

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Here’s an older post that can be revisited every year at this time, when we remember the significance of the reformation that took place almost 500 years ago today.

English Bible History

Martin Luther

Martin Luther had a small head-start on Tyndale, as Luther declared his intolerance for the Roman Church’s corruption on Halloween in 1517, by nailing his 95 Theses of Contention to the Wittenberg Church door. Luther, who would be exiled in the months following the Diet of Worms Council in 1521 that was designed to martyr him, would translate the New Testament into German for the first time from the 1516 Greek-Latin New Testament of Erasmus, and publish it in September of 1522. Luther also published a German Pentateuch in 1523, and another edition of the German New Testament in 1529. In the 1530’s he would go on to publish the entire Bible in German…

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Should Christians Celebrate Halloween?

Halloween is an annual celebration, but just what is it actually a celebration of? And how did this peculiar custom originate? Is it, as some claim, a kind of demon worship? Or is it just a harmless vestige of some ancient pagan ritual? 
In North America, the yearly observance of Halloween amounts to a multi-billion-dollar industry, second only to Christmas…selling costumes, candy and food items, party supplies, greeting cards, tours of so-called haunted houses, and other forms of entertainment. But what is the history of this particular day? The story may surprise you.

More than two thousand years ago, a people called the Celts (Kelts) lived in what is now Ireland,Great Britain, and France. Among the Celtic people was an elite intellectual class known as the Druids, who served as religious priests, judges, lawmakers, and scientists. They had an elaborate pagan religious festival, along with certain rituals. Chief among these was the Fire Festival called Samhain (pronounced sow-en), observed at harvest time to mark the Celtic New Year

The Celts believed that on this night the barrier between the natural world and the supernatural was removed, and the spirits of the dead were able to move freely among human beings. Samhain was the most solemn and important night in the Celtic year.

After the Roman Catholic Church came to the Celtic peoples in the seventh century, some of their traditional folk customs were adopted by the church. In 835 A.D. Pope Gregory IV moved the church’s “Feast of All Saints” from the spring to November 1st to replace the observance of Samhain. All Saint’s Day, still observed today by many, honored believers who had died. The night before, which featured a sacred vigil in church, became known as “All Hallow’s Eve,” or Halloween. But the old practices of the Druids died hard and were denounced by the church as witchcraft. This is how Halloween became known as a witch’s holiday.

Dressing in costumes and going door-to-door comes from a much later tradition in the British Isles, a practice not restricted to Halloween. Masked players would go from house-to-house, putting on a simple drama or musical performance in return for food and drink. Often these performances had Christian themes. 

The “trick-or-treat” custom we know today is thoroughly American in origin. In the nineteenth century, when Irish and Scottish immigrants brought their Halloween traditions to North America, the night became an occasion for pranks and mischief. Vandals would go through the night, soaping windows, overturning outhouses, and pulling gates from their hinges. These pranks were playfully said to be the work of witches and ghosts, but by the 1920s the joke wasn’t funny anymore. The damage to neighborhoods was mounting.
To counteract Halloween vandalism, community clubs like the Boy Scouts began to organize alternatives that are safe and fun. Children were encouraged to go door-to-door and receive treats from homeowners and merchants, keeping the troublemakers away. By the 1930s, the practice was popular nationwide and young voices crying, “Trick or treat!” were echoing through neighborhood streets.

In this way, a combination of pagan, Christian, and civic elements formed the Halloween celebration we know today. In recent decades, however, a renewed interest in the old pagan beliefs has blossomed in North America. Popular entertainment, including television shows like “Buffy: The Vampire Slayer,” and even “Sabrina, the Teenage Witch,” make occult themes and witchcraft seem fun and acceptable. The result is that Halloween today has become strongly associated with the occult and a preoccupation with the dead—two influences that Scripture and the church have always warned against.

You see, Satan is not a joke. He’s real. Though the Bible clearly states that God is the world’s highest authority, He gave Satan a certain amount of power. With God’s permission, the evil in this world is under Satan’s control. This is why the apostle Paul said in Ephes. 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” 

Satan was the first one in history to openly defy God. He also started a way of life that was self-centered and rejected God’s authority. That marked the birth of sin, which is nothing more than rebellion against God. Today sin affects the entire human race. We are all guilty, and therefore all deserve sin’s penalty. “For the wages of sin is death….”

Halloween is rooted in paganism, but this is not the main reason I discourage its celebration.  If you want to, you can tie many of our modern practices back to ancient pagan practices…Good grief, pagans had a holiday in which they gathered around a tree, similarly to Christmas, but we don’t throw out our trees because of that ancient connection…don’t throw the baby Jesus out with the bathwater…He is the present, dominant association of Christmas however you celebrate it.  But there’s much better Biblical reasons to avoid Halloween than just its pagan roots, for it continues in the ancient traditions it was founded in.

 

So why not celebrate Halloween?

I. Because It Glorifies Death.

A. First it is important for us to realize that death does not come from God. 

Death is a result of man’s own choosing. The Scripture plainly tells us, Genesis 2:16-17 
“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” 

God told Adam the only thing he was not to do was to eat from this tree, but if he did, he would die. It reminds me of a kid, If you tell him not to do something he will do it or burst.

Adam was just like you and I, he had to touch and taste the untouchable. How many of you when you see a sign that say’s, “Wet Paint” just have to go over and touch it?

Adam made a decision to eat and Romans 5:12 tells us the result of his actions, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” 

God is not the cause of death, man is.

B. The second understanding we must hold onto is that death is an enemy. 

We are in a battle with an enemy called death. But why is death our enemy? It is because it destroys life, it takes life away, whereas God is the Creator and Author of life. In God’s original creation there was no sin nor pain, disease or death, remember man chose to sin. 

The Bible teaches that death is the enemy of mankind. 

I Corinthians 15:26 “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.” 

Christ was subject to the great enemy of man: death. Note that death is the last enemy that will be destroyed.

Death has an end; death will cease to be; the reign of death will be stopped.
Man shall be delivered once-and-for-all from death. Death will be swallowed up in victory.

“He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it” (Isaiah 25:8).

“I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes” (Hosea 13:14).

“So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory” (1 Cor. 15:54).

“[God’s purpose and grace] is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel” (2 Tim. 1:10).

“And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death” (Rev. 20:14).

“And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away” (Rev. 21:4).

II. Because It Honors Satan and Demons.

God is not honored on Halloween. God is not even mentioned. Satan, witches and demons are honored. The Bible teaches that Satan and demons are the enemies of mankind. 

I Peter 5:8. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 

Throughout Scripture Satan is described as:

He is “the god of this world” who blinds men’s minds (2 Cor. 4:4).

He is “the prince of this world” (John 12:31; John 14:20; John 16:11)and “the prince of the power of the air” (Ephes. 2:2; Ephes. 6:12).

Satan’s purpose in making war against God is twofold.

A. Satan’s purpose is power and worship, to receive as much of the power and worship of the universe as possible (Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:11-17).
B. Satan’s purpose is to hurt and cut the heart of God. Why? Because God has judged and condemned him for rebelling against Him. Therefore, Satan does all he can to get back at God. The best way he can do this is to turn the hearts of people away from God and lead them to sin and to follow the way of evil. 

But the Bible says “greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world” (1 John 4:4); and, “If God be for us, who can be against us?” (Romans 8:31).

III. Because People Sin On Halloween.

Many people get drunk and take drugs. People dress in horrible, occultic costumes. All of this is sin. It’s considered the holiday of hell, and the bad boys come out for it!  In NM they would kill people’s livestock and drink the blood on this date, and kidnappings is always a great fear on this night…be very careful!

I Corinthians 10:20. But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 

Participation in idolatry is fellowshipping with devils The devil and his angels or demons are behind all idolatry, whether the idolatry of a heathen society or of an educated society. Scripture definitely declares:

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” (Ephes. 6:12).

“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works” (2 Cor. 11:14-15).

It is utterly impossible to participate in the true worship of God and in the worship of devils.

“Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table and of the table of devils” (1 Cor. 10:21).

“Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them” (Deut. 11:16).

IV. Because God Himself Hates Halloween.

God says, “I hate every false way.” Psalm 119:104.

God does not hate mankind, but He hates man’s evil ways.

Genesis 6:5-7 
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 

God is wearied by man’s sins.

“Thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities” (Isaiah 43:24).

God is broken by man’s sins.

“I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall loathe themselves for the evils which they committed in all their abominations” (Ezekiel 6:9).

God is grieved by man’s sins.

“Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways” (Psalm 95:10).

God is grieved to the depths of His heart with man’s sins.

“And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart” (Genesis 6:6).

 These are good reasons not to celebrate Halloween, and reasons why we are proud to offer a great Christian alternative in our Fall Family Festival.  We need an alternative, and many in our community benefit from it, as do our own children.  We can bury our head in the sand if we want to, or we can rise to the occasion of the biggest opportunity we have each Oct. 31st!

Invitation:

Man was God’s creature, the most noble and dignified creature ever created, but man abused God’s love and purpose in creating him. Man rebelled against God: he rejected God’s love and purpose in creation. Man chose to reject, ignore, neglect, and deny God, his Creator.

You need Jesus Christ to save you from the penalty of your sins.

Make the right choice today and choose to put sin aside and turn to Jesus.

 
 
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How far can go some “pastors” ?

“How should we respond to the gay couple that wants to engage in our church? A couple that wants to apply for membership, who wants to be in leadership, who wants the opportunity for a deeper relationship with God and to experience authentic Christian community without being ridiculed or ignored,” he asked.

Farah said that if a church is going to honor God with a clear biblical teaching and a Christ-like presence it needs to fulfill the Great Commandment and do two things – love people, love God.

“It’s easy to talk about ‘those people,’ but those people have names, are committed to their partners, love their children and want deeper relationships with God,” he said.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-leaders-urge-church-to-love-gays-all-people-as-jesus-commanded-84024/#wesFUcW9BGDLYcTz.99

 

The bolded phrases from this fragment were highlighted by me.

I have just one question: REALLY ???????

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Sarbatoare tragica…../ Tragic celebration…..

Tragedie

Romanian version:

Botez încheiat tragic într-o localitate din Vaslui, Romania. O fetiţă de doar cinci luni a murit chiar în timpul petrecerii organizate pentru creştinarea ei.

Părinţii au băut şi au mâncat cu invitaţii la botez până după miezul nopţii. A doua zi dimineaţă când s-au sculat şi au vrut să vadă ce se întâmplă cu micuţa care nu scotea nici un sunet, au descoperit că aceasta zăcea fără suflare. Au chemat imediat Salvarea dar orice încercare de resuscitare a fost în zadar: copilul murise. Potrivit medicilor decesul survenise în urmă cu câteva ore. Părinţii spun că fata lor era puţin răcită, au dus-o la doctor şi peste câteva zile urma să se ducă la control. Reprezentanţii autorităţilor au declarat că se va face o necropsie pentru a se stabili cauza decesului.

 

English version:

Baptism ended tragically in a village in Vaslui, Romania. A girl just five months old died during the party organized for her Christianization.
Parents drank and ate with baptism invitations until after midnight. The next morning when rose up and wanted to see what happens with little girl which could not draw any sound, they found that it was lying lifeless. They immediately called the emergency team but any attempt to resuscitation was in vain: the child was dead. According to doctors death occurring a few hours ago. Parents say their daughter was slightly chilled, took her to the doctor few days ago and wait for the follow up visit. Representatives of the authorities said they will do a necropsy to determine cause of death.

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If Obama Was White, He Wouldn’t Be President

Obama Mocks Constitutional Eligibility to be President at White House Correspondents’ Dinner…..

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Moral character of elections fallen …

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Attention…Attention…

by Randy Sims

Be Careful
This morning, the Muslim Brotherhood warned the United States that if the United States continued meddling in Egypt , Libya , Syria, Afghanistan and other hot spots in the Middle East, they intend to cut off America’s supply of 7-11 and Motel 6 managers.

If this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be next, followed by Dell, AT&T, and AOL customer service reps.

Finally, if all else fails, they have threatened not to send us any more Presidents, either.

It’s gonna get ugly, people.

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Unto the Lamb….

Youth Choir from Happy Valley Romanian Pentecostal Church, Phoenix AZ:

Ordinare 12/07

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Sa mai si radem….

Rusia acuză pietonii români de terorism

“Într-un comunicat de presă emis astăzi, Ministerul de Externe rus somează autorităţile române să înceteze atentatele sinucigaşe cu oameni, care se aruncă pe trecerea de pietoni în faţa maşinilor conduse de diplomaţi ruşi treji.”

Citeste tot: http://www.catavencii.ro/Rusia-acuza-pietonii-romani-de-terorism_0_6036.html#

 

 

 

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Unbelievable…..

Obama Linked To Benghazi Attack

OCTOBER 25, 2012 BY 
President Obama Speaks on the Attack on Benghazi
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PAGINA Florin Ianovici PREDICI

PAGINA Vladimir Pustan PREDICI

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Faceti click pe poza sau aici pentru predica- http://live.bisericabetel.com/ si intrati in arhiva Bisericii Betel din Cluj Napoca si selectati Programul de dupa masa – Duminica 21 Octombrie 2012.

Predica incepe la 1 ora 27 minute. Textul este din Daniel Capitolul 1 (integral).

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Elections approach … as a Christian, what do you choose?

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Be in the world but do not be of the world …/ Sa fii in lume dar sa nu fii din lume…

Pastor Loran Livingston 10/21/2012 am

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The human mind more inclined to religion than to science…/Mintea omului mai inclinata spre religie dacat stiinta…

English version:

A team of researchers in Boston University’s Psychology Department has found that, despite years of scientific training, even professional chemists, geologists, and physicists from major universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Yale cannot escape a deep-seated belief that natural phenomena exist for a purpose.

Although purpose-based “teleological” explanations are often found in religion, such as in creationist accounts of Earth’s origins, they are generally discredited in science. When physical scientists have time to ruminate about the reasons why natural objects and events occur, they explicitly reject teleological accounts, instead favoring causal, more mechanical explanations. However, the study by lead author Deborah Kelemen, associate professor of psychology, and collaborators Joshua Rottman and Rebecca Seston finds that when scientists are required to think under time pressure, an underlying tendency to find purpose in nature is revealed. The results provide the strongest evidence yet that the human mind has a robust default preference for purpose-based explanation that persists from early in development.

To test the hypothesis that there is a natural preference for teleological explanations, the researchers asked a group of physical scientists from top-ranked American universities to judge explanations such as “Trees produce oxygen so that animals can breathe” or “The Earth has an ozone layer in order to protect it from UV light” under speeded conditions so they had little time to reflect on their answers. Another group of scientists made judgments of the same statements without any time restriction. The researchers found that, despite maintaining high accuracy on control items, scientists who were under time pressure demonstrated greater acceptance of scientifically unwarranted purpose-based explanations than their un-speeded colleagues who generally rejected them. This same pattern of heightened purpose-orientation also held among two control groups — undergraduates and college graduates from the local community in the same age cohort as the scientists — although the scientists’ overall endorsement of inaccurate purpose-based explanations was lower by comparison. In a second test, the researchers found that despite their years of scientific training, chemists, geologists, and physicists showed no less of a purpose bias than English and history professors whose science knowledge was substantially lower.

“It is quite surprising what these studies show,” says Kelemen. “Even though advanced scientific training can reduce acceptance of scientifically inaccurate teleological explanations, it cannot erase a tenacious early-emerging human tendency to find purpose in nature. It seems that our minds may be naturally more geared to religion than science.”

The study is published online in the October edition of the Journal of Experimental Psychology: General(published by the American Psychological Association).

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121017102451.htm

Mintea umană, mai înclinată spre RELIGIE decât spre ŞTIINŢĂ, arată un studiu american

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Romanian version:

O echipă de cercetători din cadrul departamentului de psihologie din cadrul Universităţii Boston a descoperit că, în ciuda faptului că au trecut printr-un proces îndelungat de educaţie ştiinţifică, chiar şi fizicienii, chimiştii sau geologii de la Harvard, MIT sau Yale nu pot evita crezul că fenomenele naturale există cu un scop.

Deşi explicaţiile teleologice (potrivit cărora orice are un scop) sunt omniprezente în religiile lumii, un exemplu fiind ideile referitoare la originea Pământului, acestea sunt de obicei discreditate de către ştiinţă. 

Atunci când oamenii de ştiinţă au timp să analizeze motivele pentru care obiectele naturale şi evenimentele naturale există, aceştia resping în mod explicit ipotezele teleologice, preferând explicaţiile cauzale

Cu toate acestea, studiul efectuat de Deborah Kelemen şi de echipa sa a arătat că în momentele când oamenii de ştiinţă trebuie să gândească sub presiune, având la dispoziţie o perioadă limitată de timp, iese la iveală tendinţa umană de a atribui naturii un scop

Rezultatele acestei cercetări reprezintă cea mai convingătoare dovadă în favoarea ipotezei ce susţine că mintea umană prezintă o preferinţă înrădăcinată spre explicaţiile teleologice, preferinţă care se manifestă încă din cele mai timpurii stagii ale dezvoltării umane.

Pentru a testa această ipoteză, cercetătorii au cerut mai multor oameni de ştiinţă de la cele mai prestigioase universităţi americane să judece un set de afirmaţii, precum „copacii produc oxigen pentru ca animalele să poată respira” sau „Pământul are un strat de ozon pentru a se proteja de razele ultraviolete”. Un grup de cercetători era nevoit să judece aceste afirmaţii într-un timp rapid, pe când specialiştii din grupul de control aveau timp nelimitat la dispoziţie. 

Cercetătorii au descoperit că oamenii de ştiinţă care erau nevoiţi să răspundă sub presiunea timpului prezentau un grad mult mai mare de acceptare a afirmaţiilor nonştiinţifice, ce explicau fenomenele naturale în funcţie de scop, decât colegii lor care aveau timp nelimitat la dispoziţie şi care respingeau explicaţiile telelologice. 

Un alt studiu efectuat ulterior de echipa lui Kelemen a arătat că, în ciuda faptului că beneficiaseră de ani de educaţie ştiinţifică, chimiştii, geologii şi fizicienii erau la fel de predispuşi la acceptarea afirmaţiilor nonştiinţifice ca profesorii de engleză şi de istorie, ale căror cunoştinţe ştiinţifice erau mult mai reduse.

„Rezultatele acestor studii sunt cu adevărat surprinzătoare”, a comentat Kelemen. „Chiar dacă educaţia ştiinţifică avansată reduce nivelul de acceptare a afirmaţiilor nonştiinţifice, teleologice, ea nu poate elimina această tendinţă umană, înrădăcinată încă din primii ani, de a căuta un scop în natură. Se pare că minţile umane sunt în mod natural mai înclinate spre religie decât spre ştiinţă”, a concluzionat cercetătoarea. 

Studiul este publicat în ediţia din luna octombrie a publicaţiei ştiinţifice Journal of Experimental Psychology.

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Voia lui Dumnezeu – Interviu cu Pastorul Florin Ianovici

Interviu realizat de Cornel Darvasan in cadrul emisiunii “Viata la Superlativ” la www.sperantatv.ro/

Partea 1:

Partea 2:

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Sexualitatea si tinerii – Interviu cu Pastorul Vladimir Pustan

 “…….Trebuie sa intelegem ca maturitatea trupului e mult inaintea maturitatii mintii. Trupul se maturizeaza mai repede ca si mintea. Ei devin intr-un fel sau altul potentiali barbati si tati inainte ca sa aiba mintea de-a putea sa fie un sot si un tata…….”  Vladimir Pustan

Interviu realizat de Cornel Darvasan in cadrul emisiunii “Viata la Superlativ” la www.sperantatv.ro/

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It Is Possible…..

Caleb is no longer with us but his memory will remain forever in Taylorsville community and beyond. A bold young, devout Christian, born and educated in the spirit of aiding all, missionary, is buried as a hero. It is possible ….

Watch below some clips recorded yesterday at the funeral service:

Caleb, you’ll never be forgotten!!

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GOLD or….. BRASS?

Posted by Jack Kirkland  on 10/15/2012 at 12:30 PM on: https://www.facebook.com/home.php

“Do you have trouble identifying pure gold from polished brass? At a distance it is almost impossible to tell the difference; even up close most people still have a problem. Much of what you see in the Christian today being presented as pure gold is nothing more than cheap brass with a good coat of polish buffed to a brilliant shine. Just because a person acts spiritual…giving messages in tongues; interpreting messages; “ worshiping”; etc. doesn’t mean they are the real thing! We are now living in an age where popularity overrides purity! They can teach any kind of false doctrine, including people like T. D. Jakes, Joyce Meyer, Joel, Osteen, Rick Warren, Oprah Winfrey, and others…then you come along and present Jesus Christ and Him crucified, but when it comes time for someone to leave…they stay and you go! They can play their damnable rock/rap and country music and still be placed on a pedestal. Folks if we don’t come out from among them and expose their heresies we are going to be left right here with them at the rapture. Another thing about the gold and brass…leave them alone for a few days and you want have any problem identifying them because the brass will turn green and the gold will still be shinning bright. We must come forth as pure gold if we want to spend eternity with Jesus!”

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